Although a good portion of these dealt with events and facts that were questionable in the first place and therefore dubious (i.e Brushy saying he was present at Tunstalls funeral when it is very possible the real Billy the Kid was or Brushy saying that it was Fred Waite who was shot by Billy Mathews during the Brady assassination, not Jim French, when contemporary sources differ as to who the wounded Regulator was), there were some that were definitely wrong. So in other words, its purely coincidental that
heart attack and died, but his claim to fame did not go with him; today some Billy the
No. First of all, Brushy appears to have had some Hispanic descent due to
Billy the Kid: Beyond the Gravetraces the life of this famous desperado through his role in the Lincoln County War, the alleged killing by Sheriff Pat Garrett, Billy's escape, and his life for the next sixty-nine years. Although I prefer not to give any attention to this controversial topic, I'm forced to discuss Brushy Bill Roberts who keeps
Billy The Kid - General Message Board - The Sign Syndicate Photos: First Look Images on the Set of THE FINAL TRIAL OF BILLY THE KID Hines told Morrison of his experiences in the Lincoln County Wars with 19th-century American frontier outlaw and gunman, Billy the Kid who was allegedly killed by Sheriff Pat Garrett on July 14, 1881, but he stunned Morrison by claiming that the Kid was still alive and living near Hamilton, Texas under the name Ollie L. "Brushy Bill" Roberts. His
fired, Brushy then ran towards the house and after a brief shoot out with
Mary Roberts died in 1862 while James was off fighting with Quantrill in the Civil War. It also saddens me to
If only I got a dollar every time my name was misspelled
Mabry, to which Brushy couldn't respond. notice and some convinced a few people, but were forgotten through the
been shot by Pat Garrett in 1881 and that would have made him two years
Many years later Billy the Kids Fort Sumner
Garrett and the Kid were not the good friends that legend claims. money buying a headstone? the Kid knew Garrett was in or around Fort Sumner and sent his comrade to
He said he gave Deluvina the tintype of himself and she gave him the scarf. any questions When all was said and done Governor Mabry
Morrison said he would help the old man in his case, but only if he could be shown proof that Brushy was who he claimed to be. Hines was claiming that the land of his recently deceased brother now belonged entirely to him, since he was the only surviving heir. Also walking down the street was a five year old boy and his mother. how old and senile Billy the Kid would not have forgotten Pat Garretts name
There was no doubt in Morrisons mind that he was talking to arguably the most famous gunslinger of the Old West, and he was determined to help him gain his long-awaited pardon. supposedly received, would have immobilized him for days. The folklore is that a guy named Brushy Bill was really Billy the Kid. The reader can make up their own mind on this matter, but according to Brushy Bill Roberts, "Garrett would rather climb up a tree and tell a lie than stand on the ground and tell the truth. Brushy then went on to say that he knew he didnt have many years left in him and wanted to die with the full pardon he had been promised by Gov. Why did he change his middle initial from P. to L.? Sumner or New Mexico for that manner. And, finally, if Brushy was really Oliver P., then what happened to the real William Henry Roberts? the Kid swearing an oath to avenge Tunstall's murder at the funeral was made
The theory that he was illiterate sprang from a quote C. L. Sonnichsen wrote in his book, that Roberts was "not a literate man." Moses1986. that. Hines then told Morrison of his experiences in the Lincoln County War and with Billy the Kid. On another point to ponder, let's not forget that the birth date November
Morrison did indeed return the following day and Brushy admitted to him that he truly was Billy the Kid, only he didnt want to say so in front of his wife. Rudabaugh and go in the other room with an Indian girl. ambidextrous. Yes, Mrs. Maxwell asked if
This myth is based on the fact that Brushy had publicly appeared with a man named J. Frank Dalton who claimed to be Jesse James. admitted that Brushy got some facts wrong, but he believed Roberts was
Now heres where Brushy
An attempt to separate myth from fact. He had previously shot two men without warning in his attempt to get Billy the Kid (Tom O'Folliard and Charlie Bowdrie). Myth page, Istill get emails from visitors who want more proof
In conclusion, I would just like to state that I hope I have accomplished my goal of providing all the facts as they are and checking my own biasness. only one-quarter. Several of the things he knew were known to only a few people at the time, including historians. Although they did not sign affidavits in support of Brushy, due to the fact that they wanted to avoid any publicity that would bring, they did tell Morrison they believe him to be the Kid. Kid's death, she was one of the first to find him lying on the floor of Pete
the Kid could be unchained from Rudabaugh to go in the next room with a girl
Their mission to gain the pardon proved to be unsuccessful, and additionally, it was treated as a joke. think that must be blind. in 1900 Hopkins County, Texas; age 30 in 1910 Van Zandt County, Texas; age
Those that publicly identified Brushy
Now if they knew it wasnt him, why would they waste their
shot him in the jaw it would've left a very nasty disfiguring scar on his
resemblance. The story of a man named Ollie Roberts, a.k.a. After the
Morrison
The Old Man Who Claimed to Be Billy the Kid - Atlas Obscura He also stated that any differences in the picture of Brushy and Billy the Kid is that Billy the Kid's face was altered when getting his photo was being touched up. On the way out the door, Brushy stopped Morrison and told him to come back in the afternoon of the next day, when his wife would be out visiting a friend and they would have the house to themselves. During his testimony,
41 in 1920 again in Van Zandt. the late 1920s. Pat Garrett and his deputies he retreated in a Mexicans house. In reality, at the time of Tunstall's funeral Sheriff
In the words of the analysts, the study "irrefutably shows that Roberts and the Kid are a very close match" and that the similarity between the two is "amazing." These same men are the ones who got Pat Garrett elected Sheriff and who also branded a young cowhand named Billy "the Kid" as an outlaw in the press. I
The study used the most advanced photo comparison equipment around as well as the best scientists. When he proclaimed to Hines that the Kid had met his death at the hands of Sheriff Pat Garrett in the house of one of his relatives, he was shocked to have Hines reply that the Kid was not killed by Garrett, or by anyone else for that matter and was still living. so Brushy was said to be left-handed too. Billy the Kid - Wikipedia entirely filled with Billy the Kid supporters and friends, there were some
After all, they supposedly looked the other way
Mr. Cool-headed! When a historians personal agenda and biasness is pushed, or something from a subjective topic is declared as ridiculous, the historian loses their objectivity. Was Brushy Bill Roberts Billy the Kid? Bill Roberts as Billy the Kid, where not really friends of the Kids
Of course this story of
Brushy supporters also say the Oliver
Even Garrett had to have realized
In the building, Brushy described how the building looked during the Kid's incarceration there to a T. Every little detail of how the building looked in 1881, Brushy knew. By looking at
To many in the small town of Hico, TX, Brushy Bill Roberts was simply a local frontier character. killed but lived to see another day, but of course as we all know thats not
Im a Billy the
When
someone out there that Brushy Bill Roberts was not Billy the Kid
meeting was set, it would've been a trap and Garrett would've arrested or
Wallace and that Billy was not killed in 1881 and still deserved his pardon. Oliver P. Roberts was a cousin of Brushy Bill Roberts. Regardless, when Brushy came out as Billy the Kid in 1950, no close family members came forward to contradict his claim. or only saw Billy the Kid as a child, so how can they identify Brushy as being
Furthermore, Roberts wanted Morrison's help in acquiring the full pardon he was promised by Governor Lew Wallace in 1879 but refused. Most likely Brushy was told about it and added this romantic
shoulder blown off as if it were a paper cut; gunshots wounds as Brushy
Jim Tully, a good friend of Brushy's, signed an affidavit that Brushy was completely literate. The missing seven percent can be explained due to age and dental work, so said Dr. Bovik and Dr. Acton. Also, if Garrett
slip out of Fort Sumner), discredited all such claims and firmly stated that
History tells us that the outlaw known as Billy the Kid (aka Henry McCarty, aka William Bonney) was gunned downat the ripe old age of 21by Sheriff Pat Garrett on July 14, 1881, in . No one is claiming that Oliver P. Roberts was Billy the Kid. Brushy was
But then it was learned the Kid was really
Supporters say, he was an old
In the courthouse in Lincoln, Brushy detailed to Morrison how he, as Billy the Kid, made his famous escape and killed deputies Bob Olinger and James Bell. The story of Brushy Bill Roberts begins in 1948 when an attorney named William Morrison heard that Sheriff Pat Garrett never actually managed to gun down Billy the Kid, who was safe and sound and living in the town of Hico, Texas, under his latest alias of Ollie Roberts, but most folks in the town knew him simply as Brushy Bill. and strongly felt that he was used, betrayed, and cheated out of a
It has been claimed that Brushy Bill was illiterate, and therefore could not have been Billy the Kid. would later go on to say that she was glad to live long enough to see him
Aboutfour weeks later, Brushy Billsuffered a heart attackwhile walking to the post office and died on December 27, 1950. his death conveniently faked and leave the territory for once and for all. that Brushy was illiterate, but yet, he knew so much about the Lincoln
He went by the name of William Henry Roberts and he died in Hico, TX in 1950, though this account of the Billy the Kid conspiracy theory says Brushy Bill went by Ollie P. "Bill" Roberts even though the grave marker says William Henry Roberts. But one had caused quite a stir and gained nation wide attention and even to this day his claim is being talked
Four weeks later
In November of 1950 Morrison and Brushy went
DIDN'T BRUSHY BILL'S OWN FAMILY DENY THAT HE WAS BILLY THE KID? Billy the Kid Museum, Hico, Texas - RoadsideAmerica.com His parents were James H. and Mary Adeline Roberts. Several months later, after completing the Hines case (in which Hines was given his brothers land), Morrison struck up a written correspondence with Brushy Bill.
According to Brushy, this was the name of a cousin of his that was killed and he had merely taken his name. birth date. This is false. Oliver P. Roberts and Brushy just happen to marry women with similar to
The Kid also would have
Through census records, it is easy to track the life of this Oliver P. Roberts. If Brushy was not really Billy the Kid, then why did he come forward and claim he was? left-handed and illiterate, but like Billy the Kid, he was literate and
is found in several census records: age one in 1880, Arkansas; age twenty
Garrett. To have pulled
If his testimony was correct then Olinger and Bell were never
The first three all signed legal affidavits attesting to the fact that Brushy Bill and Billy the Kid were one and the same and the Jones brothers, although they did not sign affidavits (claiming they didnt want to get involved in the proceedings) also stated their agreement with this. Kid forever. dead and buried. An old lawman named Henry Anthony and his sons were also on the street and when Anthony saw Brushy, he jumped up and yelled at Brushy, calling him Billy Bonney, and told him to throw up his hands. Oliver Pleasant "Brushy Bill" Roberts (1862-1950) - Find a Grave Oliver was a real person that was born in 1879. when Garrett was passing Billy Barlows body off as the Kidright? Now with modern photographic comparison software and more access to primary source documents than ever before, many people are beginning to believe that Brushy Bill Roberts truly was the Billy the Kid of legend. Lastly, after intensive research nothing at all
air, and say, You can lead a horse to water, but you cant
that, and he couldn't count on the Kid seizing the opportunity of having
To find them, search the collection on Billy the Kid. face, a narrow chin, small mouth, round ears and very narrow slopped shoulders. slipped away unseen with the help of Frank Lobato. that didn't like him. Kid biographer and my goal is to educate people that Billy the Kid was
Maxwells bedroom and she also helped prepare his body for burial. Billy the Kids began to pop up everywhere. Brushy Bill Roberts: The Man Who Claimed To Be Billy The Kid think that the only thing better to debate about on Billy the Kid is that
on July 14, 1881 by Pat Garrett, but was alive and well, living in Hico, Texas under the alias of
After Barlow was killed, Brushy continued, he fled Fort Sumner. In 1990, a legitimate, scientifically based and statistically significant photo - comparison analysis was conducted at the Laboratory for Vision Studies and the Advanced Graphic Laboratory at the University of Texas, Austin, by Dr Alan Bovik of the Department of Electrical and Computer Engineering. Hines went on to say that besides himself and Billy, there was only one other surviving veteran of the Lincoln County War, namely Jim McDaniels, a member of the Jessie Evans Gang. Walter Nobles Burns The Sage of Billy the Kid as a reference to coach
of people. Brushy Bill registered for the WWI draft and signed his original name as Oliver Pleasant Roberts. thought: In March of 1879 Billy the Kid secretly met and made a bargain with
Billy vs. Brushy - About Billy the Kid According to most sources, theinfamous outlaw met his end at the tender age of 21 in the summer of 1881, when he was gunned down by Lincoln County Sheriff Pat Garrett in Fort Sumner, New Mexico.
Its important to remember that Oliver P. Roberts was a farmer and not an adventurer. He spent most of his time chatting up the locals downtown and telling stories of his life on the frontier. Here's another claim that flip flops: due to the reverse image of the Kid's authentic photo,
Still, Brushy asked Young to look up an old friend of his, Jimmy McDaniels (a former member of the Jessie Evans Gang and veteran of the Lincoln County War), who also lived in Round Rock. the two met and went on a road trip to New Mexico. French that accompanied Billy to Brady's body so the Kid could reclaim his
In the summer of 1950, Morrison moved, along with his family, to El Paso, Texas, in order to be closer to anything he may need in his investigation. Author Daniel A. Edwards does not call Garrett a liar, but believes that, like many in his day, Garrett was a pragmatist. nowhasnt anyone else had their name spelled incorrectly? Henry McCarty (September 17 or November 23, 1859 - July 14, 1881), alias William H. Bonney, better known as Billy the Kid, was an American outlaw and gunfighter of the Old West who is alleged to have killed 21 men before he was shot and killed at the age of 21. All in all,
Hines had confessed his real name was Jessie Evans, who had vanished from public view after getting released from a Texas prison in 1882. Thomas J. Mabry, governor of New Mexico, agreed to a private hearing with Morrison and Brushy, along with one or two historians of Mabrys choosing, to be held on Nov. 29. There are those who believe that after he escaped, he became a performer in Buffalo Bill's Wild West Parade under the name of "Brushy . Yes, that was their goal, but here's some food for
Billy the Kid? - Angelfire Badly frightened, Brushy apparently suffered a small stroke, and when the questioning began, he failed miserably. HA! Storied Billy the Kid claimants 'Brushy' Bill Roberts of Hico, TX and John Miller of Prescott, AZ will finally get their day in court to prove their claim to being legendary outlaw Billy the Kid. In the 1930 Van Zandt census Roberts turned
There are many who outright lie and allege that Brushy Bill Roberts was proven a fraud, but under close examination this has no basis in fact. for a farewell fling, but it wasnt with an Indian girl it was with Paulita
Upon entering the conference room, they were shocked at what they saw. around the pupil. Brushy supporters that gullible and blind to the truth? Brushy Bill Roberts never claimed to be a part of Jesse James' gang and there is absolutely no evidence to support this allegation. His parents were James H. and Mary Adeline Roberts. He laughed in the face of
from the Billy the Kid Outlaw Gang's web site
His interest began while watching the old black and white western movies made in the 1940s and 50s. A few hours later, Brushy and Morrison arrived at Mabrys mansion. agreement for a pardon back in 1879? light hair, was of fair complexion and had clear blue eyes. By the time he came to Hico, Brushy Bill was more than seventy years old. "Alias Billy the Kid," by C. L. Sonnichsen & W. V Morrison, 1955, "Billy the Kid & Me Were the Same," by Dr. William A. Tunstill, 1988, "The Trial of Billy the Kid," by Judge Bobby E. Hefner, 1990, "Billy the Kid: Killed in New Mexico---Died in Texas," by Dr. Jannay Valdez & Judge Bobby E. Hefner, 1995, "The Return of the Outlaw Billy the Kid," by W. C. Jameson & Frederick Bean, 1998, "The Real Billy the Kid AKA: Brushy Bill Roberts," by Brett L. Hall, 2004. Kid buffs
In truth, Brushy was completely literate. In the fall of 1949, Morrison took Brushy with him to New Mexico for the purpose of having Brushy meet with some surviving acquaintances of Billy the Kid, to see if they could verify or deny his claim. 15 Brushy Bill Roberts Premium High Res Photos - Getty Images before Governor Thomas Mabry to request a pardon for Brushy Bill Roberts
Barlow, he said, was partially Mexican, had a beard, looked like the Kid, was a little younger than the Kid, and was possibly related to the Clements family, the cousins of John Wesley Hardin. Corroborations, for example, that the person Pat Garrett killed from ambush was a Mexican with a beard, and not Billy the Kid. This held a special interest for Morrison, since he was related to the Maxwell family of Fort Sumner. Brushy Bill Roberts: The man who claimed to be Billy the Kid, he had Not exactly. beginning when Brushy first came forward with his claim, it was pointed out
In a nutshell, Brushy's story went like this: he was born William Henry Roberts on December 31, 1859 in an area of Texas known as Buffalo Gap. Also one last thing to really drive the nail in the coffin. Reply. According to Brushy, Oliver left home at one point and was killed on the trail. Morrison believed for the rest of his life that Roberts was really Billy the Kid. Moreover, there is no DNA support. the 'billy the kid' photos (some not yet verified) had to have the same long, snakelike fingers billy and brushy were known to have. Also during
All the while, the pair were careful to make sure that Mrs. Roberts was kept in the dark over the entire proceedings, as Brushy didnt want her to learn his true identity and be disgusted with him for his reputation. It's disappointing for me to
If Brushy was not Billy the Kid, why did he not go along with the traditional origin of Billy the Kid (that he was born on Nov. 23, 1859; that he was born in New York; that his real name was Henry McCarty; and that his mother was Catherine McCarty)? Some were too ridiculous to take
returning to places where he shouldn't be. He concluded, however, that the man in front of him, just as his contemporaries claimed, was actually Billy the Kid. Brushy's testimony, he would recall swearing revenge on John Tunstall's
This is only a handful of the most obvious of proof
Now is this the right attitude for a woman who knew Garrett
they'll never change their opinion, the only reason I even wrote this page was for those who are undecided and just
Author: Caknuck. Why did many Roberts family members say Brushy was not Oliver P.? And if words werent enough, the old man hadall the scars that the real Billy the Kid reportedly had. THEN he got on his horse and rode off. From what it sounds like Morrison used
Since Brushy was so young and Catherine moved around so much, everyone just assumed that Brushy was her son. They base this on the fact that, according to the Roberts' family records, Oliver Partridge Roberts was born in Coleman County, Texas, in 1879. this video demonstrates the undeniable sameness between four 'billy the kid' photos and four pictures of william henry 'brushy bill' roberts. it off, Garrett and the Kid had to meet somewhere to plan this hoax, but
supporters deny that Oliver P. Roberts, in the above census, is not their
reading the above information and you still believe Brushy Bill Roberts was
The Kid was reckless but he wasn't stupid! The University of Texas Laboratory for Vision Systems maintained state of the art facilities and equipment - computers, cameras, processors, monitors and printers - for such studies. Are you going to
Fact vs. No contemporary account carries any mention of the gunfight that Brushy claimed transpired between himself and Garrett, Poe, and McKinney after Barlow was killed. While Billy the Kid was of Scot-Irish decent, had
Billy the Kid: An Autobiography: The Story of Brushy Bill Roberts $18.00 Paperback $25.00 Hardcover In 1882 a notorious outlaw by the name of Jesse Evans, a childhood friend of Billy the Kid and a participant in the Lincoln County War, walked out of jail after serving a sentence for killing a Texas ranger. NOTE: I welcome and encourage all e-mails regarding this topic. Scholars hypothesize that his given name was either William Bonney or Henry McCarty. about and his name (unfortunately) has latch on to the legend of Billy the
In his journal, Morrison noted Brushy as being about 58 tall and weighing about 165 pounds, with blue eyes, small hands, large wrists, heavy shoulders, thinning grey hair, high forehead, prominent nose, and large ears.
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